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"If there is any “trumping” to be done, let it be what God has said."

Amen.

Thank you for such Scripture-based clarification on the topic, unlike banal understanding by some others mired in doctrines (i.e. eisegesis). To many Trinitarian thinkers/writers, does every word 'spirit' smell like the Holy Spirit, whatever it may be for them, as if something that looks like a bone for hungry dogs? :-<

Ounbbl,

The only reason we read the Bible is for theological reasons - we believe that the Scriptures are the word of God. In fact, the reason that we have the books that we do in the Bible are for theological reasons. Theology pervades the entire enterprise of biblical interpretation. Moreover, interpretive methods -- even modern, "grammatical-historical" ones that many use -- also have a history and their own presuppositions and baggage. Interpretation is not simple and easy because it involves historical and philophical issues, not to mention the fact that language itself is very complex.

To use your example, referring to the Son instead of the Spirit, Christians often see signs of Jesus in the Old Testament or Hebrew Scriptures, because Jesus himself said that those scriptures speak of him (see John 5:39). Regarding the Spirit, the Spirit speaks of the Son, as Jesus says in the gospel according to John (see especially chapters 14-16). And Jesus himself refers to the Spirit from Old Testament scriptures (such as in Luke 4:18-19).

Trinitarians / Christians do not see every mention of the word 'spirit' to refer to the Holy Spirit, of course, because 'spirit', like all words, has a variety of meanings, but in some contexts it can be difficult to determine exactly which meaning was intended. Unless you have an example of someone who foolishly sees every meaning of 'spirit' to mean 'Holy Spirit'?

Peace in Christ, Tim

I did a quick glance at 9 english translations and see that a number of translators believe the seven spirits is the Holy Spirit. Some leave the word spirit generic and at least one of these offer the alternative in footnote. Beginning in chapter 2, all those translations indicate the Holy Spirit is speaking to the Churches. I believe the seven spirits in Rev 1:4 is the Holy Spirit. My reasons are more than just because the majority translation is such. Opinions of translation in the Church have a long history. We first need to do all we can to keep peace in the family. We also need to always pray that the Lord will give us understanding of His awesome holy word!

Hi -

Could you show any instances where the word spirit (pneuma) refers to an angel (as opposed to the holy Spirit, or a demon)?

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